Here's a text message exchange that I had with HBMPHBrunette, and since it went really well for me, I figured I'd post it up on here for you guys to use before I deleted it.
HBMPHB: wanting to get some meds from me because she needs to study for a make-up exam
h: "Sounds cool hottie! Lemme know wen u need em..", then explained I've got different Rxs
HBMPHB: "hahaha! ur such a gangsta! dude the 30 sounds gr8! u know that i officially love you, right? let me know when ur gonna b on campus!"
h: "I love you too dearie! Esp during the booty call hrs ;-) ..but uh dont tell neone bout our secret love - it'll hurt my gangsta image :-p" [note the push-pull type of formula, following Sinn and Future's breakthrough comfort style of texting]
HBMPHB: "tell anyone? u nuts? would ruin the treasure that is our mutual love!"
h: "Very tru..i knew i kept u around 4 a reason - u're smart AND good in bed ;-) altho u do learn from the best gangsta lover ever :-p"
Later that night, we meet up for a bit to get our transaction through, and she tells me that her boyfriend goes through her phone, so she had to stop texting me when he got back.
A couple days later, she hit me up again, to get some of the other Rx, and pay me back for it all. So I texted her back, "Haha u're crazy..n it's great! I'll hit u up after my group meeting".
We met up, and she'd "left" her money in her room - how convenient, since she came out to see me..plausible deniability, anyone? ;-)
So we go back to her place, and I start talking to her about her room and some of the shit she had in there [mixed in with some sexualized comments, like how her bed was barely big enough for one person, how could we both fit on there, etc]. After a few minutes, I grabbed some DVD cover and sat down on her bed, reading the back of it. She got the money, came over and sat down on the bed, and gave it to me.
I leaned into her and told her that she smelled really nice. Then, I ran my fingertips up her neck to her hair. Then I stroked her hair and told her how I was trying so hard not to kiss her - and as it turned out, that's all I needed to do, because she lunged lip-first at my face lol
Our clothes come flying off, and next thing I know, she's bent over on her bed, with my dick rammed deep inside of her - not bad for a post-class activity :-)
It still surprises me sometimes as to just how easy this stuff can be, and how smoothly it can go, just with having the right timing with the escalation, both physical and verbal - starting back from the sexual framing in the texts all the way up to being in her room.
~h
Thursday, July 17, 2008
LR: Some More Text Messages
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Thursday, July 10, 2008
Inside the Mind of a Hot, Yet Insecure, Girl
Have you ever been played hard by a girl..?
Today, let’s take a journey into the mind of a hot but deeply insecure girl to see what’s going on and how she games the men in her life.
The hot girl in question is a composite of a few girls I’ve known, and we’ll call her "Sarah". Every girl has a little bit of Sarah in them - this composite we’re drawing is simply the most extreme iteration of it.
Here’s the backstory, taken from my experiences with the girls:
I met her at a cool, semi-exclusive bar while she was on a date; she and her date were seated nearby us at a large communal table, and it was clear that she wasn’t madly in love with the guy, despite his fawning over her.
Interesting challenge..
A few weeks and much flakiness later, she came to one of my parties. We dated for about a week and a half afterwards, but it didn’t take long to figure out that it wasn’t going anywhere. She’s 21, has various addictions I’d never accept in a girlfriend, and parties way too much. That’d be fine and we could have still had something basic if the physical connection was good, but it wasn’t.
Sexual tension resolved, we transitioned into being friends, and these days she is something of a surrogate little sister. It's adorable - she’ll come by my place, bounce around like a pinball, and effervesce about the drama and excitement in her life.
Sarah is a smart girl - far more intelligent than she initially appears. She plays the ditzy little girl role with aplomb, and half of my friends still refuse to believe that her IQ could possibly break the triple digit barrier. But when it comes to men, she knows exactly what she’s doing.
In the months we’ve been friends, I’ve seen her destroy several guys, and I watch her keeping a steady flow of prospects in the pipeline. The guys she dates are good looking, successful, and usually, they fall hard.
I believe that deep down Sarah is also a good girl who wants to find a deeper happiness than her life today gives her, but as it stands, I’d hate for one of my friends to get caught up with a girl like her. And should you ever find yourself in a situation with a Sarah of your own, it's only fair that you understand exactly what’s going on.
Personally, I’ve dated two girls like her before, and was in a wickedly hurtful relationship with one of them. Let’s see if we can get into Sarah’s head.
The first thing you have to know about her existence is that it is fairly shallow. Moment to moment, she seeks constant emotional and physical stimulation in the form of drugs, sex, cigarettes, text flirting with guys, etc. And unlike most of us, she’s able to get away with this because, well, she’s a hot 21 year old in a big city who knows how to play the game.
Sarah also likes to party. She’s out two to four nights a weeks, sometimes hitting multiple clubs at once, and she’s always at the best and hottest new club. Promoters love her because she rarely brings guys along, and has a great personality; fun, ditzy, playful, giggly - everything you want in a girl when you’re out at a club.
But when she meets a guy in whom she’s interested, her demeanor changes instantly. First, her voice softens up to something akin to a baby’s cooing and her eyes become doe-like. The innocence comes across as capitulation, and flips a big switch in a man - his desire to take care of a woman.
But she also knows how to turn on the sexy..with a narrowing of the eyes, a crossing of the legs, a little bite of the lip - and she’s attractive enough that few men are going to turn her down. I’ve watched her do it to four randoms in clubs, as well as a friend of mine just to prove to me that she could.
This 1-2-3 combo results in paralyzing crushes: fun wild social girl to fawning little bunny to sexual mistress.
She goes after bankers and traders whenever possible. It is important for her ego that the men she’s dating have certain qualifications.
And as she starts dating a man, she’s full of push-pull. One morning she’s in his kitchen, wearing his oxford shirt and cooking breakfast for him. She tells him she’ll see him later that night, then flakes out and heads to a club with me where we’ll dance the night away.
The guy starts texting her, “Baby, where are you?” The next morning, she meekly apologizes, shows up for sex, and pulls the guy deeper into thinking that if he tries just a little bit harder, she’ll change for him.
And this is the genius [mad or otherwise] in how she handles a man. She is incredibly compliant and giving when she’s with him, to the point he thinks he “has her”. She is very emotional and “falls in love” quickly; temporary as it may be, the guy starts to believe it, too. Her emotions are like a hurricane: as soon as they come, they can also be gone.
And a guy wants to believe that he’s going to be the one who tames her, that she’ll be his domestic Debbie. Then, once she’s felt that the guy has invested enough into her [and critically, ONLY then], she’ll disappear.
And here’s the funny part - it works best on the guys with huge egos. The most successful, the best-looking, the ones who eat women for breakfast. She’s sexy enough that she can make them work hard to get her [fancy meals, tables and bottles, whatever she wants, really], and once they’ve invested enough and then “won”, it becomes part of their ego that they’re dating the girl who everyone else wants but who no one can have.
The moment she pulls away, that massive ego begins to lurch. I’ve watch guys cancel travel plans, leave work early, and go into debt trying to pull this girl back into their world.
Does this lead to good relationships? Absolutely not - it results in fights, guys showing up at her house [and mine] yelling in the street for her, and lots of bad feelings. But it works for her for two reasons:
First, all the drama is essentially emotional stimulation. Whether she’s feeling really good and excited about a guy, or whether he’s blowing up her Blackberry with pleas and grievances, it is making her life interesting.
Secondly, while she is an intelligent girl, she has some very deep issues. Insecurities she’s not comfortable sharing with a guy with whom she’s romantically involved. She knows [instinctively] that if she truly opens herself up in that way, she’s putting herself in a position to be hurt. And she’s so insecure about who she really is that she’s just not going to let a guy who’s fucking her have that kind of power over her.
What’s the lesson here for us guys?
Well, most importantly, do your homework and follow your instincts. A key concept in attraction is investment: the more you invest in something, the more of an emotional attachment you develop for it.
And falling in love with Sarah is kind of like buying stock in a promising but volatile tech company - if it is a hot thing that is poised to take off and generate massive returns, you might get emotionally invested, and fail to get out when you should. Every now and then, the company puts out a press release with incredibly good news, but since you’ve never met management, you don’t know if it's accurate. And believe me, if a man is dealing with Sarah on a superficial or ego basis, he definitely hasn’t met management.
Perhaps you started dating a girl and had people who knew her tell you to “watch out for her”, but you defended her and said “no, I know her in a way that other people don’t” or something equally silly. Well, management is hidden away in the board room and letting the PR and customer service people do the talking, and you bought into the lines they’re feeding you.
What else? Don’t let your ego get caught up in determining whether she’d be a good girl for you. Sarah has great people in her life who are looking out for her, and just because you’re fucking her doesn’t mean it's your responsibility to save her.
Yes, if she sees your interest waning, she’ll work hard to get it back. But if you’re getting any signs that your girl is half-heartedly committed, that her insecurities and/or abilities with men are driving her to seek constant stimulation, then you just have to keep your eyes open - one day, when she’s had enough partying, she’ll find a solid man and latch on tight, and there will be no doubt in his mind [or hers] that she’s in it to win it.
But until then, if there’s smoke, there’s probably fire.
The things that drive Sarah are present in everyone’s head. When you’re looking for a girlfriend, it's important to be able to see her for who she really is.
I’ve been in relationships with girls who I thought were loving, honest people. Something went wrong, then all of a sudden I’m seeing parts of Sarah come out. The girl is pushing me, pulling me, and I’m telling myself “wait, this isn’t who she is! She’s the girl I was dating a few months ago..I just need to bring that back out of her”.
Problem is, because her perception of me and the role that I play in her life changed, the person who she is when she’s dating me changed, too.
Lessons learned.
And hey - if you know yourself and who you are, you know what you’ll accept, what you won’t, and you’ll be able to give yourself fully in love when the right girl comes along.
~h
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Saturday, June 21, 2008
The Phone Text: A Very Useful Tool of Game, Part 2
Another nice long, info-packed post from El Topo, on texting:
Text Game Part 2
So now we get how to open a text and one popular way to initiate a text dialog.
So let’s describe a few things around that.
I you haven't read Part 1 of the Text Post go here!
http://the-red-mole.blogspot.com/2008/0 … art-1.html
Also find out more about Subpersonalitites in Shaft's Post as well, cause I refer to the idea quite a bit.
http://the-red-mole.blogspot.com/2008/0 … ities.html
The reason why Hot Cold works so well, is because it is an element of Push Pull. I would like to do a post on changes made to models of game, but there are a lot of posts I would like to do…getting to it is the real feat! But surely I will get to it!
The reason why Push Pull is such an important part of game it because it is something that pretty much every human and animal is responsive to. It is almost like people can’t help but do it.
Now you can’t say something like ‘Hey, you sweet cunt whore, how’s your day going?’ that may piss some people off (but if you make it work…let me know). But what you want to do with each aspect of Hot Cold/Push Pull is get them to invest a little bit in it.
How we get people to invest is through Qualification, Baiting, Framing, Compliance, Dominance and Logistics.
So those are the things we are going to talk about in terms of text. And again, I would like to do a post on my teaching method of breaking down your Tools of Game along with How to Implement those Tools, but again it will probably be a few weeks on that. It I could write as fast as I could think then my blog would be a goddamn encyclopedia! Should have taken a typing class!
So the important thing with text to think of is that it is only a small part of game. So your goals in text are to do a few things.
I always like to Bring out-
-A Subpersonality in it, and it is great for that.
-It is a good use of to begin Force Framing
-It is a great Calibration Tool
-Logistically I want to engage someone with some compliance, usually accepting roles or doing small tasks.
-Build Investment emotionally (now it is important to know text probably isn’t the tool to engage serious emotions, but more reactive and surface level ones. You need an orchestration of complete game to have it effect deep rooted emotions)
-And Logistically I want to set up a time to meet, with all those frames and subpersonalities to bring to the table.
So with that in mind, instead of saying, ‘You sweet cunt whore, how is your day going?’
You want to say things that your texts to follow some sort of path that will stimulate reaction to role into another text that will build a frame, to role into another one that will build compliance to your frame, that will role into one that will bait them into a subpersonality and all be fun and exciting to engage in.
You can hook a girl very easily to be that guy that she has a text war with on a daily basis. During debriefing I always ask women when they started to know they were going to sleep with me. If I have worked them through text they will always say something like, ‘I thought you were cool when we met (she might even say a little weird…hahahaha), but I really started to think about you in that way, when I would be at work thinking about what I was going to text you or when you were going to text me’.
So go figure, but it works, and even with text you can see yourself get sucked in with it too! Beware!
Using Bait in Text-
Although this is how to Bait using text, all of the ideas like Push Pull/Hot Cold, Baiting, Qualifying, Framing, Compliance, Dominance, and Logistics all kind fo work together. But in their subcategories I will mainly be highlighting the part which it is titled. In this case Baiting.
So the idea of Bait is a reactive one. It is something that is hardwired; people can’t help but respond to if done correctly.
So let’s start with some examples-
Shortly after the first few texts, maybe the second or third one in…
-‘So I am sitting in a waiting room, and I wonder if the people around me know what I am thinking about’
-‘Guess what I am thinking of right now, I just totally saw your twin and it set me off.’
-‘OMG the craziest thing just happened, I am totally in a weird head space right now’
-‘Even tho you like X ;-), I still think you’re…well maybe not LOL’
-‘I am totally bored, don’t even TEMPT me with those thoughts! ☺’
-‘You have no what I just saw, you would totally LOVE it, in that sort of BAD girl sort of way…LOL!’
Ok so let’s take a look at these. Now some of them are doing a few things here.
The first one-
-‘So I am sitting in a waiting room, and I wonder if the people around me know what I am thinking about’
What you’re doing is trying to bait them into a simple question. One being, ‘where are you?’ or Two being, “What are you thinking about?’For a while Sinn, Shaft and myself would always ask two questions, or give two things to respond to in our texts to calibrate. We don’t so much anymore, but it is a great tool to use. Now with either answer you can go somewhere.
But the one that shows she is more likely to quickly accept a frame over text is if she answers anything about what you are thinking. Reason why is because if she answers that she is curious about something that leaves a huge door open to.
An office space is pretty mundane, what someone thinks that might offend the ‘norm’ hanging out in the office can be something pretty interesting, well if you’re a PUA.
So if she says ‘Where are you?’ no big deal, you text back something like,‘Trust me you don’t want to know, but these people are freaks! Totally your crowd ☺’
or
‘The funny thing is that, I am normally really into bizarro things, but I usually need a wing, next time I am bringing you! And you’ll never guess…’
So let’s take a look at a few more breakdowns…
-‘Guess what I am thinking of right now, I just totally saw your twin and it set me off.’
When I took my BC Sinn told me Future and him used the father text of this…’OMG I totally just saw your twin’ to calibrate how quickly a girl would reply. If she replied quick it meant you could begin with likely fruition on your text/phone journey.
So then we added a little more to it. Mainly because we wanted to see what she would reply too and our Bait was then more voiced to lead towards curiosity on what we are thinking. It may hook it may not. So in the first two texts a good thing to point out is asking two questions in the same text.
We will touch on that later.
But our Bait is always leading to a frame or subpersonality, or maybe even something else.
So it is best to get a response about ‘what you were thinking’ but you may get a response on the ‘twin’ part. The main thing is this will get a likely response. And you should probably use this text as a opener as well or the first text in a new exchange with someone you have been texting. It leads very well into some tactical conversations.
Replies to the twin part might be…
‘Yeah I was totally excited at first, but didn’t have that wicked side to here. LOL!’
‘And you should have SEEN the look on her face when I snuck up from behind, butt I think YOU could have handled it! HAHAHA!’
Replies to the thinking part might be…
‘All I got to say is….bad girl! LOL :-D!!!!’
‘I was actually REALLY disturbed! I knew I remembered you…stay HOTT!’
So you get the idea with that. This would go on forever if I were to breakdown all of them, so let’s go to the next Implementation of the Tool…
Qualification in Text-
This is one that you can open a text conversation with, but to really use qualification you want to use it a bit later in the exchange, but it can be fairly impactive within 2 or 3 texts in.
But first let’s talk about Qualification.
So Qualification is a get way to get a lot of things. Lot’s of people go on and on about it and it is something that many discussions can be had about it.
Most of those discussions show its use in gaining investment in the group.
There is a great Audio Program out there that has Sinn and Vision going over Qualification. Most people say it is one of the best Audio Products out there. It is something that has a long history and has evolved quite a bit.
But here are its uses-
-Gain Value and Compliance (throughout your set) towards Value. Build investment essentially, through a ladder of Qualifiers or establish your value, to make her feel the need to invest her Emotions or work up to your Value.
-Calibrate where you are at in set. So it was said many a times by Future in many Seminar rooms (probably many other people too, but I can still hear Future saying it in my head) ‘Qualification is the Gateway to Rapport. This is because is was a good way to know you could enter Comfort and also it was a good way to transition into a Comfort base story. The funny thing is that Qualification is now used in Comfort (little bit of a different twist, but definitely Qualification, and it is the total LMR buster in Seduction. Qualification is thee way to Blast through LMR and is one of the Roots to the KFP.
-And the most neglected use of Qualification is that is defines where you go next in Set!
It is what you need to show which way you are going, and in Text this is important!
What I mean is let’s say you are talking about eating Bats in the Amazon your DHV story (and let me tell you I can go on and on about how misused DHV stories are in the community), and you want to transition out of it.
You can Qualify with,‘So what is something you have done that made you know what your passions were?’
With that you can then talk about your passions and hers and all that stuff. Good for building bonds and many, many other things.
But let’s say instead you talk about eating Bats in the Amazon and transition out with…
‘So what’s the craziest thing you have ever done?’
No this can go a little more sexual… both can but with this you are using Bait to take the set somewhere into a more racy territory.
Both Qualifiers are good, neither one is better, depends on where you are in the set and where you want to go. And the Qualifier tells you where to go. That to me is a pretty important use to negate. So USE IT!
Some examples of text for qualification might be…
Opening Text with a Qualifier-
-‘So what is your favorite Karaoke song! ;-)’
-‘So wait, you always pick up guys, when they are DRUNK!’
Again opening with a qualifier is pretty weak use of a qualifier, but be creative and fun with it and it will work.
A few Texts in-
Think about if they fall into one of your Baiting texts you can empower it with your Qualifier.
-‘Jezz! You really do have a WILD side don’t you?’
-‘What kind of girl are you…really? I mean you didn’t really put that off when I met you, but go figure! LOL’
-‘So you are really starting to make me wonder, who taught you your text etiquette?’
-‘I am not sure if I really know about you yet… are you one of those girls that doesn’t always play nice…’
So you can see from this that the qualifiers really do have somewhat of a Baiting element to them too. They are also the beginnings to Frames, Compliance and bringing out that subpersonality.
Remember Qualification is a tool to progress on in the right direction!
And that will take us to….
Compliance through Text
Now here will probably be one of the more rich parts of the post, because it will map out how you need to text (the flow of text or the rhythm). Compliance does a few things…
But at its fundamental it brings out repetition in the target working in a certain direction.
Normally I bring up Framing before Compliance, but I will lead with compliance here to better describe Framing later.
Normally compliance is just thought of as getting a girl to do something for you. This alone is super effective. In fact I remember on a Workshop in Hawaii, Tyler Durden spent about 20mins describing to a student what Compliance was, and this opened my eyes to a larger field of it. Also Shaft can talk, and I mean talk about the importance of Compliance in all forms of Game.
But other than getting someone to do tasks, you can build a Qualification ladder with Compliance, you can build frames with Baiting someone by making them Compliant to your interaction with them, you can make someone fulfill a narrative that brings out a Subpersonality through Compliance. Basically you can use Compliance to get someone to follow your lead.
Compliance is the fucking shit, so see it as not just getting someone to fulfill actions, but also to be made to interact with you in a specific way that helps Frame them into your Subpersonality.
My example will be an exchange with breakdown of what I am attempting to do through Text. Here goes….
PUA- ‘You won’t believe what just happened! You should have BEEN HERE!’
Target- ‘?’
PUA- ‘Really that is ALL you can write ‘?’ I thought you spoke text…lol, are you sitting down?’
Target- ‘Yeah, I am at work, WHAT HAPPENED, is that better? ☺’
PUA- ‘This chick just totally went crazy at the store, I thought, I wish (target’s name) was here.’
Target- ‘I don’t know if I would have wanted too, what did she do?’
PUA- ‘Yeah, I am not sure if you would have laughed or joined in…’
Target- ‘That depends what it was she was doing’
PUA- ‘I still am not sure…either you’d be all over it or ur one of those PG 13 girls’
Target- ‘Wouldn’t you like to know?’
PUA- ‘That says it ALL right there! ;-)’
Target- ‘OMG, you are totally crazy… You might not want to know! :p’
PUA- ‘ME totally Crazy! F U!’
Target- ‘YES! And F U too ☺’
PUA- ‘That is sweet, but now you’re are totally making me wonder and now U won’t want to know… ’
Target ‘You couldn’t even imagine’
PUA- ‘Seriously, I have to drive now, so take it easy on me, you wouldn’t want to cause an accident now would you???’
Target- ‘Accident? That might be fun, good thing I am not there! Lol!’
PUA- ‘So now I am totally bored, entertain me… are you at work?’
Target- ‘Yes’
PUA- ‘And what are you doing?’
Target- ‘I am sitting at my desk answering my boss’ emails’
PUA- ‘Woman… really, I though you spoke text…how are you going to make me crash with THAT!’
Target- ‘HA! I thought I was PG 13’
PUA- ‘Ahh, we proved that you only are when you’re at the club, but at work I know what REALLY goes on!’
Target- ‘So dirty?’
PUA- ‘Actually it is one of the worst places that my mind wanders, just think if I was at work, my imagination would be corrupted even MORE by U! ’
Target- ‘You are a trip, I think you’re corrupting me!’
PUA- ‘Good cause later I may need your help, I have a crazy meeting I have to attend ☹…’
Target- ‘HA! We will see…’
PUA- Stop with that ‘we will see’ crap, you’re totally my text BITCH! Lol!’
Target- ‘Ahhh Text BITCH… couldn’t you come up with something else.’
PUA- ‘Yeah but, text me BACK….BITCH! by the way I am almost back and still no crash…’
Target- ‘CRASH BITCH!’
PUA- ‘You’re supposed to make me do that in another way…come on GET TO WORK!’
Target- ‘You’re too much. I can’t handle you…’
PUA- ‘That is what I thought! Lol. No really, what are you doing later, I will need someone to perk me up in a few hours.’
Target- ‘Why are you asking I thought I was your BITCH! Hahaha!’
PUA- ‘Jezz UR having way too much fun, maybe I should give you a whip so you can step it up’
Target- ‘I like whips’
PUA- ‘And I do too, but I don’t use them, I prefer using my hand!’
Target- ‘Now that depends, when and where…’
PUA- ‘Really, I think that you know WHEN and WHERE, unless you’re really more creative than me… and then I don’t want to know’
Target- ‘ That’s right BITCH!’
PUA- ‘Look woman, talk all you want, but I will turn you inside and out’
Target- ‘I am waiting…’
PUA- ‘And be waiting with a wheelchair cause you might need it’
Target- ‘LOL!’
Ok so this is a pretty common exchange.
No what you see in the first part of this, is a lot of baiting toward sex using really fun attitude. Text game is all Attraction being used as a door to open up different parts of her. This particular girl was not biting at first but still going along with it. This always suck, but if she is at least somewhat entertaining your ideas you can still press on very lightly. You always want her following your lead.
The whole time I am leading the interaction, and the whole time I am reframing her replies to what I want to see them as.
The more I can get her to follow my path of the narrative, the more I make her Compliant.
And the reason why I chose this exchange was because it took her a while to warm up and it was done without any breaks in the text, it all took place over one day.
So now I text saying, ‘BITCH I am bored TEXT BACK!’ and she does.You can also see the slow escalation of her turning more towards me. Eventually she does but it wasn’t immediate. The thing is that once they walk through enough of your doors (along with it being a fun interaction) they will ultimately continue on.
Compliance is something that can build your whole foundation to game.
For now that is all…
~h
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Monday, May 26, 2008
The Phone Text: A Very Useful Tool of Game
Busy, busy, busy..I'll talk about that in a later post, though!
Here is something I found really interesting and helpful, from El Topo - it is something that I've been doing more and more of lately, without having fully realized it, and definitely without the game-plan analyzation that Topo has on it..he is the professional :-p
Check it out..
The Text Game
This is one long post so I am breaking it down in a few parts. I will get the rest of the posts up in the next few days.
Texting is something that about a year ago I realized the community didn’t have a lot of solid info on.
Now like all things, there is a lot of info on it, but not a lot of it I found was really useful.
There were some routines to get a response form someone, but none that built beyond that.
There are a lot of dynamics to text game, and I am known for the fairly aggressive style, but I practice a bunch of different forms and have friends who have a lot of different techniques on how to text as well. Hopefully this post will shed some light on that.
I will say that a lot of us actually game with text messaging as a pretty useful tool.
So it is a Tool of Game,
you can take a lot of short cuts with use of Text and IM, and then there are some other things that you can’t really make as effective in it. A good example would be, you can get very sexual with a girl over text in a fairly quickly, but you can’t really show too much of a human side with it either. You can’t penetrate deep 'comfort' emotions in text, you are mainly dealing with surface level emotions, hence the fantasy element.
Not the only way but a way to game.
What inspired this post was a few things.
The First was that someone texted a girl I had dated, “what’s up HOOKER!”. This text was kind of a joke that actually turned into many fruitful experiences, but the thing to point out about texting in such an offensive manner is not to belittle people, but to stimulate a response and have a then door to elicit sexuality.
The Second is that a few email blasts came into my email box saying that they had the Text Message Secrets. Now there is definitely good text material out there, but the series of texts they listed in this email (that was just released last week) was pathetic. I know the guys who wrote it, and they are super PUAs, but it once again opened my eyes to how some of the stuff put out there can be complete bullshit.
And the Third thing I would have to say is that I use text a lot, my friends use text a lot. We all do it a little different, but there is definitely a theoretical formula we follow.
So let’s begin here by saying Game is communication and orchestrating it to follow the direction that you want.
You are Socially Engineering interactions with people.
That includes it all, you can do this in a very Passive way that can be very influential, and you can do it in a Manipulative way. That is up to you. Game has been used and abused like a hooker’s pussy.
So the one thing to realize about any superficial communication is that is can fit a Fantasy World or can be given an Identity or Frame or Linked to a Subpersonality.
What I mean by superficial type of communication is communication that someone’s deeper emotions are not involved.
That includes Communication in any area of Attraction. And the more distanced it is from reality the better.
This way you bypass a lot of comfort and can get to seduction a lot faster than before. This is what Captain Jack did with frames, starting them early and then have him define an out come with less emotional investment. This is what I see when I read Brad P’s LRs (good product by the way), he would make his Attraction Game very Sexual, and made it fun allowing his targets to
So in person, face to face, that is the most ‘real’ you can get with someone. And it is harder to get them to accept a fantasy role in the early stages, or harder for them to accept a subpersonality role. However, the face to face meeting is what our over all goal, it is pretty hard to stick your dick in someone without this happening.
Over the phone, this is somewhat personal but much easier for someone to jump into a subpersonality or live out some extension of themselves. The main point here, is that because there is some detachment from interacting personally people will be more willing to step outside of their identity they convey when in public.
Over Email it can totally be done, but you have got to fish for it. You can’t immediately try and turn someone into a bleeding romantic, a sexually frustrated slut, or whatever your goal is. But you can get there pretty deep, pretty quick. In fact when I first started this was a big tool of mine. Very comfort based, and I still don’t know many people that have met someone for 10 mins and carried out an email conversation with them for a few weeks and then without talking over the phone was able to close them. This I did quite a bit last year consistently.
Over Chat or Text, what this post is about, is a really easy way to get someone to accept some passive role with you and very quickly build that momentum towards sex. The funny thing was that a lot of my friends in the community would not believe me when I would tell them about the texts that I would exchange with people. I would tell them about texts and they thought I was exaggerating. I thought this was a natural thing to do. It always made sense that you can be a totally freak over text. I thought people did it all the time.
Then I met Levo and Doc Holiday and a few other people in the community that were doing stuff that I was doing. They were also being sexually aggressive in their Texts!
Also one of the books (Social Intelligence, by Daniel Goleman) I have always talked about as having pages and pages full of information relevant towards game mentioned a study about Instant Messenger Game.If I wasn’t so lazy I would site the page it is on, but the general idea was that there were normal Teen/Young Adults that would have no leanings towards dysfunctional behavior, yet within minutes of Instant Messaging people they went sexual.
I just think that for guys like myself in the Community, we tend to over think how people can normally act. And escalation in Text can be normal. Now mix it with some strategy and you can make it one of your biggest weapons.
But was always doing this sort of thing naturally. I have always been some who could push things too far and recover so I did that in game and I did it in text too.
Although my PUA friends believed me in what I would text wanted to see proof. And they got it eventually.
I was with Sinn and Future in Chicago and we were finishing up workshop. I started a text exchange with a girl and the value in this was that it was one long exchange. It didn’t happen over days, weeks, months, it went from me having her number sending a text and in an hour or so, she was masturbating (or so she said) while texting me back and forth.
The post is called “the Sexualized Text” I think I put it up in July or August of Last Year.
At this point people would constantly ask me about text, and when I was out they would ask me advice.
I would give it to them and sometimes it would work and other times it wouldn’t.
In fact one thing that Shaft says is that whenever he uses my texts, he gets no response. But what he started to point out was that there was a method to what I was doing.
Also at the time, Sinn and Future with their Break Through Comfort program had started adding a text aspect to it.
They would get girls in a whirlwind of “Hot Cold Texts”. And when we were looking at the consistencies in what we were all doing we were going “Hot Cold”
Now in this I want to breakdown a few different ways to Text.
There is stuff, I do, Sinn does, Captain Jack does, Shaft does, and little things I have picked up from other folks (PUAs and naturals).
There is a lot here, and it really is up to the other guys to breakdown their methods, I am just offering what I notice from observing these guys and how I have been able to replicate it.
Before we get to any sort of “Hot Cold”, we need to establish how we initiate the text.
It is not really an opener, but it contains the same sort of traits as an opener. Your initial text is supposed to stimulate attention back. It is supposed to elicit a response. It is not supposed to gain too much traction, mainly because it really can’t at that point. Like an opener it is just there to open communication.
You also need to realize that one of the best ways to text is text like a girl would. Careful placement of emoticons and capitalization work out well.
So here is the old standard that you can never really go wrong with when initialing text…
“Do you speak text … (name) ☺”
If you want you can be kind of quirky or funny with them, may sound stupid, but they work. Some quirkier ones might be…
“I just totally ate (or any other verb) the craziest thing, and in a really weird way it made me think of YOU! :P”
“I am sending you this text before I forget and tomorrow’s hangover kicks in, TEXT ME BACK WOMAN!”
“Right now I am in the bathroom, wondering if there is ever a beneficial way to write someone’s number on the wall. But it was awesome meeting you last night. :p”
“This is (insert name), text me something cool… ;P "
So now you have opened her up and where do you go from there?
Well what are your goals?
Are you trying to build a relationship with her? Are you trying to lay her as quick as possible? Are you trying to keep her around as a possible fuck buddy?
One thing that I am a big fan of, is that I will treat all the girls I pursue as SNLs. I want to go for the Lay as quick as possible. This is because it cuts out the completely unnecessary comfort that was once thought necessary in the community.
So what I am trying to do in my initial interactions is this-
-I am trying to split her personality. I want text to be a fantasy world with her.
-I want to gain compliance in the rhythm of how I am texting. For instance if I send texts that elicit an emotionally heated response, then I want to be the one cooling it down and turning it sexual.
-I want to get sexual. This is easier than you would think in text. I generally bait for it and it comes to the surface.
-I want them to facilitate a role, weather it is texting me back or performing some task that they are designated to they need to be dong something for me under my definition of them.
- I need to get them in an exchange that they can’t get out of. They emotionally isolate themselves with me through text, thus my interactions with them are a secret.
“Hot Cold”
This is kind of the original consistency we came up with, but it makes sense.
It is pure Attraction Game, and text is really Attraction Game that can be built into so many different realms. to sleep with you.
What this is, is simple. You send a text that carries one nice thing, and one teasing thing. This can go in further extremes, to something totally endearing and another totally repulsive. Like, “Just thinking about you ;)… would you get OUT of my HEAD!”
Why ‘Hot Cold’ works is because it gets a response and you are leading it. If you gain compliance over changing a anyone’s emotions you gain compliance over them. Humans are not logical, drama is a good thing when trying to speed along an interaction with women.
That is how Bait hook Reel Release and Push Pull work and this is push pull at its best. Here are a few examples of initial texts using “Hot Cold” in terms of an Opening Text… they do get better.
As you will see below, I have played around with putting the push before the pull and vise versa. No need to put that much thought in it. I give both examples. I think the lead out with the coldness may work better, but the main thing is that cat-like dynamic we are trying to portray.
“WTF I can’t believe you’re actually going home! I guess the after party will have to be going one without you”
“I am totally thinking about that (some detail about your interaction, like an odd article about their clothing)…You really shouldn’t tempt me creative minds can be trouble.”
“So today I totally ran into your twin! LOL! Except she was a good girl ☺!”
“You’re too much here…so what are up to tomorrow? ;P”
Now what is important here is not the examples specifically, but the nature of the dialogue. The two things at once, the beginnings of Hot Cold. The quicker you can become that guy she texts in her own world rather than that guy she texts that she politely responds to, if at all the better.
Escalating Hot Cold
Now one of the traps of any sort of Hot Cold interaction can be fucked up pretty easily.
It still works like a charm, but it can work like a charm in the wrong directions. So if you are using it to escalate than you need to know what direction you are going in. How it can go wrong is that is can add too much comfort and lead people towards relationships, and using Hot Cold to shape a relationship can be really out of control, cause if you play it how I do than you’ll frame the women to be totally dramatic.
So we want our Hot cold to go sexual and not emotional. To do that we need to start identifying their reactions and roles as sexual, this works out really well in text.
Here is a breakdown-
“Ok so you really think that!? Such a BAD girl…”
So the Cold (negative) part is “Ok so you really think that?” then the Hot (positive) part is “Such a BAD girl…”
Here her compliment is fitting her identity to be a positive one, but positive in a deviant way.
Now Game is something that is not really ‘making’ people do what they don’t want to do. Game is making the right situations come out and leading which way they grow. So we are not saying right off the bat, ‘you are a bad girl’. We are putting a very attractive stereotype out there and seeing if she accepts it. 8 out of 10 times she will.
Remember, we are just trying to help that sort of side come out of her.
So here are some examples of Text Exchanges Escalating Hot Cold-
PUA- “So I was just thinking…WTF did I do last night? Did I randomly text someone I shouldn’t have (don’t you hate that)…you came to mind ;) ”
Target- “LOL! No you’re safe here. No drunk texts.”
(So this is a weak response, but still a response. You want to actually get them invested, but it is your first text so no worries)
PUA- “So either you’re saving me from embarrassment or telling the truth. I like a girl that can keep a secret!”
Target- “I always tell the truth! So now you have got me wondering”
(this is a better response, she addressed both comments but still not too invested)
PUA- “Don’t press too hard WOMAN! Today has been totally crazy, I might SNAP!”
Target- “What? Snap???”
PUA- “Crazy stuff with a client of mine. But now it’s your job to make me feel better! But don’t get and crazy ideas I might not be able to handle it! ;)”
Target- “HA! ☺ Just what did you have in mind? I think I could give you a lot that you can’t handle. LOL”
PUA- “Now you’re giving me making me think of all sorts of crazy thoughts… ease up bad girl”
So what is happening here is using a hot cold dynamic to progress on in the exchange. One of the things here is that I am moving more towards a fantasy dynamic with the target and moving it to bring out a sexual subpersonality for them to fulfill.
But notice how the parts where I am saying things like, “don’t press too hard WOMAN! Today has been totally crazy, I might SNAP!”
I capitalize things like WOMAN! To get a bit of a rise out of her, and then I seed her to take on a position where I can give her a role to fulfill.
The next text I send then says, “but now it’s your job to make me feel better!”
This is something we will get into later, but it is something that Sinn does to gain compliance in a role in text to efficiently begin framing them, saves a lot of time in person with them.
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Wednesday, May 7, 2008
Yet Another Look at Text Message Game
I saw this on El Topo's blog and just had to post it up - enjoy!
~h
Saturday, May 3, 2008
Some Text Messages
Here are some text messages that have worked well for me, so I wanted to share and pass them along for further use before I deleted them from my phone:
"Hey gurrl..u know somethin? U totally distracted me this weekend, bc u kept poppin up in my mind..u suck!" [gets some comfort in, but with a teasing tone at the end to diffuse out any awkwardness by just stating "I can't get you out of my head"]
"Lollll there's that hidden kinky side - n that's y u r so awesome!" [in response to something that I chose to "mis"understand as a sexual comment - frames it as her trying to seduce me, as well as rewarding her for it]
"Hey [nickname for HBBlondeBlackModel] i missed u @ the bus stop 2day :-p" [a little bit of comfort in the joke referencing the fact that we'd seen/met each other at the bus stop like 3 times within a span of days, and then we disappeared..it also creates an opportunity to later refer back to this with a much stronger comfort aspect, in terms of "everything happens for a reason, what are the odds that we met at blahblah, and then never again blahblah"]
"Yea - u don't wanna come off 2 strong n scare me away lol but it's ok, bc i believe xpressin urself is a good thing" [in response to her reply from above - lets her know that it is okay to tell me when she's thinking of me and other things like that]
"I don't know why, but i've been thinkin about you like throughout the day..you suck!" [notice the downplay of "text talk", to make the message seem more sincere and heartfelt]
"Thats a good idea, thanks! Man i love wen u take care of me!" [girlfriend-type frame of her taking care of me, and me appreciating that]
"Hmm u did not seem 2 b the type who would not respond 2 a txt from me" [sent to HBBBM after a couple of unanswered texts - it frames her as being a person who wants to interact with me, not someone who would blow me off, without it coming off as though I'm upset or accusing her of blowing me off..result: she called me immediately as she headed to work]
"I was thinkin about you, i'm not really sure why..so i figured i'd text you real quick during a study break. Hope you have a great day!" [straight comfort-building as well as keeping open lines of communication]
"Hey [nickname]! I'm glad i let u cum c me earlier - us chillin, even for a lil bit, totally helped me de-stress..you are awesome, lookin out for me like that!" [another girlfriend-type frame of her taking care of me, and me giving her positive feedback on that]
"Hey cute - i just got up a lil bit ago..tried 2 hit u back (it said ur # is unavailable)..its crazy, u were the 1st thing that popped in2 my head 2day.." [another comfort-builder]
"Cool idea i'll hit u up 2morrow n let u know wen im free" [positive feedback to HBKraaazyBody when she suggested she "should probably come over and see you this weekend, huh?" especially by taking it to mean that she is coming over and not just suggesting that we should, and it shows that I have things going on rather than just dropping everything to be able to see her]
"HB! :-) I hope u r still, u know..alive..n shit" [this I say and text to girls all the time, when I haven't seen them around or talked to them for a bit - their level of qualification to you will show how invested they are in you]
"Lol i got the food come cummin on, so we'll jus take a nap 2gether :-p Cum by in bout an hr" [creates physical ideas in her mind, of us laying in bed, bf-gf like, but also the things that can lead to, sexually]
"Hmm well u cud cum over n i fuck ur brains out" [sent to a couple of chicks after they asked how I was feeling: "tired, lazy, and horny..the usual..trying to do work, but it's hard.." - sex is normal, and I'm feeling sex-y, but at the same time since it is so blatant, there's no awkwardness because I could just be messing around with them: if they're not on the same page, they'll think "he can't be serious"]
"Tru tru, thats a really cool thing bout u - u r real w me n EMBRACE ur sexuality, n r not afraid 2 xpress ur body's wants n desires..that makes u so great, 2 me" [qualifying her on talking and acting the way she was as a really good quality and providing positive re-enforcement to continue to do so..resulted in the girl coming over, dropping her shit, and jumping me immediately - I barely even got her up to my room before my roommate saw her literally ripping my shirt to get it off]
"Makin pancakes..yes, @ 1am..made me think of u.. does that sound lame? U suck" [breakthrough comfort text, model/structure from Sinn & Future]
"Mann i had this test 2day, totally sucked..wen i was done w it, u popped in2 my head - n stayed 4 a good bit..does that sound lame? U suck" [real good responses from just about every girl I sent it to, especially HBKraaazyBody, who indirectly let me know what she thinks of me/us..she's pretty closed-up in her nature when it comes to showing signs of liking a guy vs. just being cool with him]
"Hey cutie! I was just thinkin bout u the other day - thats crazy! ;-) i'll def needa go that way by this wknd 4 sure, we shud hook up! U know, it's real good 2 hear from u.." [notice how it sounds like her idea to meet up, since she brought up the point of whether I'll be at the mall anytime soon, and also the positive feedback so that she'll want me "2 hear from" her more often]
"Good idea..u wanna cum n tuck me in?" [in response to HBKraaazyBody suggesting I sleep because I'm tired..that original text was already suggesting to her the whole bf-gf relation type of comfort through its wording, and then this text adds in the element of the physicality/sexuality to the comfort feelings]
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Wednesday, April 30, 2008
Busy Days
Yesterday, I had quite an unexpectedly productive day, both academically and socially.
I went to class, and made it through, wide-awake and active.
During, and especially after class all the way through the night, I was off-handedly gaming girls that I'd run into.
HBAmazon is almost ready to be approached, with intent - she now actively seeks me out and makes sure to at least say hi, a great improvement over her looking-from-the-corners-of-her-eyes, half-smile, nervous look-away greetings from earlier in the term. And I always make sure to smile at her, no matter what, so she's not initimidated - funny how a little thing like that, from me especially, can make such a major difference.
I got texted by a few of my girls, varying from "Hey hrithik waz up. Just saying hi, etc" to "so wen am i gonna wrap my lips around dat big cock of urz?"
[I made some good head-way with HBKraaazyBody Monday after my exam, when I sent out a mass text to some of the girls: "Mannn i had this test 2day, totally sucked..wen i was done w it, u popped in2 my head - n stayed 4 a good bit.. does that sound lame? U suck", and it had great response with most of them, especially HBKraaazyBody, who revealed her stance with me :-)
I also caught HBAlienFace staring at me, every time I've seen her around campus, even to the point where she'll be talking with someone but her body language'll give her thought away to me, i.e. feet pointing towards me, upper body facing me, and/or more blatant things like her eyes fixed on me while she talks to someone else..but I don't know if she just sucks at trying to flirt, because obviously she's interested, but the last interaction we had, some semesters back, was kind of awkward, where I think she was trying to play-argue with me, but it was about something kind of lame, so it didn't work and made me feel like "umm..okay..", and then I never really spoke to her again..we'll see if I choose to change that]
I went to the gym later in the evening, and HBGottaBeMixed found me a couple times while I was on the phone with my girlfriend, telling me she'd be right back once I was off. And a few other girls whom I don't even remember now, similar [re]actions. Obviously there was something that was causing each of these girls to behave similarly.
So I made sure to pay attention to what was going on - I saw my reflection and noted my body language, and I also listened to myself interacting with my girlfriend on the phone, as well as making sure to keep a smile on my face so that the interaction didn't seem serious or anything.
After the gym, I was heading back to the P.I.M.P. pad, when I noticed this tall, cute Indian chick, with a nice breasts and curvy ass, speed-walking from behind me, almost as though she was trying to catch up to me; she'd been riding the bike next to me earlier, and I'd caught her glimpsing my way a number of times. For a few seconds, I was distracted, seeing that ass in high-powered motion, but I snapped out of it and started talking with her. She removed her headphones almost immediately [IOI] even though she could hear me. I made a few jokes [A2], then back-handed slapping her shoulder [light kino initiation], teased her [more A2], then a quick bit about us having to impress our Indian parents [A3/C1], all the while I'm making sure to smile and she's laughing and responding very well. Next time I see her at the gym, or around campus, I'll take things a bit further.
I drank a protein shake and then went to Subway, and there, everyone was watching me. Including one of the girls working there, who was the first girl I'd been completely infatuated with when I'd come down here for the first time. At the time, I'd gotten to be pretty cool with her, even #-closed her, but she had seemed kind of stand-offish, which I'd since then attributed to the defensive nature some local girls tend to get around me since I'm not from here - they worry that I will simply use them and then leave them. Back then, however, not only did I not know this, I didn't know how to handle it, either. Or maybe she had a boyfriend and began to feel guilty after she gave me her number. Regardless, as far as I was concerned, she was "a bitch".
And now here she was again, and this time she was talking about me and even tried to initiate conversation with me a couple of times. And I simply blew her off - guess I still had some hurt feeling from way back then, huh? Then I proceeded to make her feel awkward as I didn't even acknowledge her trying to talk to me. And then I just stared at her retarrrrdedly huge ass - seriously, it's got to be 50"+.
In retrospect, this was quite immature of me, but she does not know that I did it on purpose, because I had my headphones blasting music, even though they weren't on my ears, she still doesn't know whether I could hear or not. So I will see about maybe trying to make something happen with her the next time I go there.
The bus driver that picks me up to bring me back to my place is an old friend of mine whom I hadn't seen for..maybe almost a year now, come to think of it. It was real cool catching up with him, albeit briefly, just to see what he's been up to and how things are with me.
Then about 10:30pm, HBBlondeBlackModel calls me, from her chef-in-training job. That I think made my night, because she'd called me last Friday and had woken me up, I'd texted her a couple times since then but had gotten no response, and now here she was, secretly calling me from work. And she reaffirmed exactly what I thought was happening: she was still mad busy with interviews and photo shoots, etc, from her modeling competition in Barbados last weekend, and then working afternoons/nights, leaving her no spare time to be able to hit me back.
She told me real quick about that stuff, then asked me about my trip [I don't remember what trip she's talking about..Disney, I guess??], which I told her was a lonnng story, and would have to wait, and she agreed that we'd better wait until we're in person then. And she kept asking about me and the things I've been up to [IOIs], which I didn't realize but it was quite a bit once I started talking - the Indian cultural show performance and how awesome that was, then the after-party/ies me and my friends hit up, then my galfriend's birthday party when we hit up the new legit club in town, and then studying for that test this past Monday..of course, I made sure to lace all these stories with DHVs and other attraction spikes, to remind her of why she thinks I'm so awesome :-)
We probably talked a good 20 minutes or so before she had to go, and it was definitely a good conversation. Especially since she suggested herself, that she'd hit me up in a couple days and we could see what's up with the weekend..which I played off at first like "ummmmm..hmm..okay, yea, that should be alright.." [non-neediness].
All of this stuff happening, especially within 1 day [and a few things that happened today, going along with this..just different girls, like HBTriniMed for example], got me thinking about the signals that women send out to let guys know that they are feeling you. I'll post more about this later tonight.
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Friday, April 4, 2008
Afternoon Drinks = Chance to Game
Today's been a busy day..of course. Sticking with the pattern of the last few weeks.
I went to class, on 3 hours of sleep, and ran into 1 of my boys at the bus stop. He and I caught up for a good while, especially because we haven't seen each other around much at all this term. We were talking about the game, he was filling me in on some crazy shit that went down with him while I was in Disney World [good-crazy], and I was discussing/analyzing the game-related aspects and giving him tons of advice on all kinds of stuff. We decided we needed to catch up soon, and he went to get his bus, and I eventually made it to my next lecture.
After class let out, I tried to catch HBAmazonian as we left..but her long legs carried her away too quickly for me to catch up. And that ass..definitely mesmerized me into slowing down my own pace.
I picked up my food and waited on a bus. And used this opportunity to follow my own advice and watch other people's social interactions. Next thing I knew, I was in one.
These 2 Indian guys, kind of dorky, were hanging out, talking, and this really cute Indian girl came up and joined them. I think she's Punjabi, just because of her features, and I've seen her at the gym, working out as well as playing playing ball..she's pretty good, especially for a girl ;-) And I know she steals glances to watch me practice lately.
We had to relocate to a different bus stop because of some stupid re-routing they did, at the peak hour of traffic on campus: lunch time. I went and stood there, followed closely by these 3 and the rest of the people. The 2 dorks showed up first, and the girl joined them, again.
But she joined as though the four of us were together - it's a little hard to describe, but basically the 2 guys were standing near me, and she came and stood facing me, even though I was not facing any of them. Then she proceeded to talk to the three of us, even though I was not paying any attention to them. Not directly, anyways; I was using the chance to really study how obvious it is, to me, now, what was happening, and yet I know those 2 dorks had nooo idea what was going on. Even when she started to talk about opinion-related topics, giving me openings to jump in and join the conversation. It was really cool to see all that, especially so..automatically. Hopefully it's a good sign that more of the internalization from some time back is starting to re-emerge.
HBLowSelfEsteem showed up at the bus stop, too, so we chilled and caught up for a while. It was nice, just seeing her smile made me feel all warm and fuzzy on the inside..
I ran a bunch of errands and socialized along the way with all kinds of people, i.e. friends, random students, random old local people, random old foreigners, etc..I even watched some lady stuffing frozen meat into her handbag at the grocery store. I also got a text from HBBlondeBlackModel, informing me that she's been really busy the last couple of days, and she's got a fashion show at the high-class 5-star hotel tomorrow. I replied back with some more-than-friends/boyfriend-like vibes, telling her that that's cool and she's going to rock it, so she doesn't even need me to wish her luck. Plus, she needs to hit me up on Sunday, so we can link up and exchange pictures [hers from the show, mine from Disney] and that I had a favor I want her to do me [note the phrasing of "I want you to do me"].
[Remember: be social..be fun..provide value..live in your own reality]
When I got back from all the tasks to my place, my roommate and a mutual friend of ours talked me into going to get drinks. I looked at my phone to check the time - 4:30pm.
It was great being there, although it started really slow, to the point that I was wondering why I wasn't taking a nap instead. But then I got some Sprite and some food, and my blood glucose level was back up, so I was more active. We were just bullshitting around, but then 1 of the waitresses that came over turned out to be pretty cute, and I was picking up IOIs from her [for example, always coming on my side to serve, lingering when interacting with me, and just her overall demeanor was different with me than with my friends..especially that look in her eyes]. So I decided that even just some drinks in the middle of the afternoon provides an opportunity to game.
[Always be mentally prepared to game, regardless of time or place..it doesn't necessitate that I do it, but just be prepared to, because chances can pop up randomly]
Each time she came back, I'd make sure to not only give her something, at least verbal attention, but also escalate it..[remember, especially when dealing with waitresses, etc, to escalate as quickly as possible, due to the real time constraints that they have]..so I made a comment at first just acknowledging her being there, then I teased her about being soo slow..the next time I back-handed slapped her lower leg, then when she returned I touched her on the arm and let it linger..finally, she brought our drinks, and I asked her where hers was, why she wasn't joining us, etc, and she said that no one had bought 1 for her, and by this point my roommate was jumping in, too, telling her he needed another drink, for a female friend of ours, who'd be joining us later on. So then I said, "See, now you're covered.." and she said she'd join us later, when she was off the clock. Simple yet effective - escalation.
A couple hours later, HBBellyDancer called me. We talked for a minute, then we coordinated when we could meet up [tomorrow @ 10am - that'll be..fun.."am"]. After that, I just gamed her a bit over the phone, nothing serious, but just pumping her buying temperature, getting her all worked up laughing, throwing in some pre-selection/jealously stuff, and qualifying/framing her as being passionate and going after what she wants [i.e. she's really passionate, about the cultural show: that's why she's performing in like 3 acts, plus is on the executive board for the organization itself; and she's making time for it because it's important to her and she wants it, so she's going to do whatever she wants/needs to, in order to make it happen] -> sexual frame.
A little later, my girlfriend called, and I talked with her for a while. Then I went to go use the bathroom, and the girl sitting at the front desk of the hotel was really cute..and when she got up and walked across in front of me, I nearly popped a boner - her body was fuckin siiiiiiick!! When I got out of the bathroom, I went up to her and opened her, over-the-shoulder, and teased her for her horrible directions to the bathroom. Then as she laughed and joked back [IOIs], I turned my body back to her, and we talked for a minute. But I didn't really have much to go on, and I know she works there, so I'll catch her again real soon [in fact, my roommate's going there tomorrow morning and was going to see what's up with her for me]..but goddamn, that's a fuckin sick body..
An hour and some bit later, HBRunnerUp called me, too, but by the time I got my phone out, I'd already missed her, so I figured I'd hit her up when we left, especially because the band had set up and started playing by this point.
We kicked it some more, and then we decided to roll. I went to get our bill, because my roommate had tried 3 times with no luck. I caught my waitress chick from before and flirted with her a bit, teased her, did some quick push-pull, and then told her because she left us hanging, we were simply leaving her, period. She was like Ohhh nooo please don't go yet, I'll be off soon, blahblahblah, but I was like maybe next tiiiime. Then she went and got another girl, who was supposed to get us our bill. So I worked in some quick attraction with her, too, teasing her for sucking and not letting us leave, it must mean she's trying to keep me there and take advantage of me, oh man bad girl, etc. She was responding great, but I realized that they were getting busier and busier by the second, so either I leave them..or they leave me. So I opted for the high-value move and rolled out.
[Next time, especially with these specific girls but also in general, I need to plan out better my strategy, ON THE FLY, so that I can properly progress through to #-closing and Day2s with "hired gun" types]
And this is when my friend told me that my roommate had been talking about some blonde chick the whole time I'd been gone on the phone with my girlfriend. Then he pointed the group out to me: a text-book seated 3set in the corner. My roommate wouldn't go talk to them, and we were walking out. He claimed that he hadn't wanted to go talk to them alone. I said I'm down, let's go talk to them. He kept walking towards his car. So I told him that I was going, if he wanted to join me, cool.
I turned around and went back. I walked right up to their table, as all the other girls at the place were watching me hardcore [I need to have a better seat next time, so I can see the people that are there..I didn't realize there were some cute-ass girls there with us by this time].
This is when it was game-fuckin-on! I went into the 3set [2 blondes, 1 very cute brunette] direct, and I smiled [nice!]..and in the "subtle" way girls do, they started loudly whispering "Hey, hey, omg, it's Mr. Bollywood, it's Mr. Bollywood!!" And I recognized these girls as being this group of chicks who was watching me practice my dance 2 days ago at the gym.
I calibrated with this, knowing I already had massive attraction [remembering back to the way they were gawking at me the other day], and so I just went with whatever verbal stuff, skipping A2 altogether, and focused on body language.
h: "Hey I got a quick question for you guys..well, you're not blonde, so you don't count [neg to my initial target, especially since I know that my boy was talking about 1 of the blondes].."
blondes: "haha ummmmm..??"
h: "Don't worry, it's not a bad thing, it's no blonde joke..[they crack up]..so check it out, my friend told me that my roommate has been talking about 'this blonde girl', I was in the bathroom at the time, and now we're leaving, and he wouldn't come over to talk to you guys.." [I realize that I kind of DLV my roommate in this, but since he's my roommate, and they've got massive attraction for me, I figured he's already in pretty good with them through simple association]
brunette: "Well, I really respect a guy who can, who comes up to a girl, especially a group of girls, to talk to them - that takes some guts"
h: *umm..I'm here for my roommate, not myself* "thanks :-D"
brunette: "Yeah..but we're all taken" or "they're both taken" .. something like that
h: "Ah..well, then maybe it's a good thing he didn't come over then.."
cuteblonde: "Wait..[looks at brunette]..it depends on what he looks like..hehe"
h: [turn to brunette and kino] "Gasp! Did you hear that?? How naughty! [turn to cuteblonde] You're baaaad..it's a good thing Mr. Whoever isn't here to hear about this!! Trouuuuble!"
3set: "hahahahaha"
From here, I went back to a lot of body-rocking between the 2 girls I was standing with [brunette and cuteblonde], and they start engaging me hardcore in their conversation. Since I was getting the major IOIs, I stayed in with them, pumping their buying temperature for my roommate, banking on him making his way back to then join us and have this shit all set up for him.
When he did, I "introduced" them to him: This is .. [wait for her to put in her name], and this is .. [wait for her to put her name in], etc. And then I ejected to let him do his thing. In retrospect, I should've stayed in there with him, but I stuck to the story a little too rigidly..mainly because I didn't know how it was going to be "gaming" with him, not really knowing his style.
I bullshitted with my friend, and after a while, we started making fun of my roommate, saying he had probably told them at least 3 of the same stories already that he'd told us earlier in the evening. My roommate is full of stories, about everything, for any situation - it's uncanny [even right now, he's telling story after story to one of our friends].
He came up a little later, ready to roll. So we start getting up, and I walk over to the girls real quick to invite them to the Indian cultural show [since I know they are already fans of my dancing, and have massive attraction, and they already know about the show since they were calling me "Mr. Bollywood"], and next thing I know, I was back in-set.
And I made the most of it, in terms of practice. I switched my target from the brunette to the cute blonde, based on the IOIs I was getting from her. Either there's much more attraction there, or she and her "whatever" are much less serious than brunette [whom I still had major attraction going with, but I was losing her because a guy friend of hers had engaged her even before I'd re-entered the set].
Regardless, I started back-turning the brunette, and each time she'd drop her conversation with the guy to try to win me back. But I didn't really care, because I'd already decided to go for the cute blonde, with both blondes completely tuned into me. They were offering me their food to taste, talking about all kinds of random shit just to keep the interaction going, etc. So I made sure to really pump them up, with a lot of teasing and plenty of verbal and physical IOI rewards ["Oh man, you're awesome!", "You totally rock!", etc, along with super-fast kino escalation, up to hugs and kisses].
Then I made sure to #-close them on the basis of reminding them of the show next weekend, as soon as I know what time it's supposed to be. I stayed in for about 5 more minutes, just to play it safe, and then I bounced on the basis that I had to re-join my friends and roll out of there.
When I got back to my room, after eating [yet again], I hit up HBRunnerUp. We talked for a good 10 minutes; she left her own pre-birthday celebration and her friends to talk to me, despite my regular offers to let her go [I was testing her level of interest/investment]. Especially since I found out from my boy this morning, that she and her boyfriend did in fact break up near the end of last term..nice.
She told me how she watched the dance and ran through some of the moves, and they were really easy. Needless to say, that makes me feel really good about us pulling off the dance by next Saturday. Then we just chit-chatted, but there were definite pauses in the conversation..but no move on her part to leave. Realizing what was going on, I switched to mini-stories mode, telling her about the night and DHVing myself as a leader of men and protector of loved ones [by deciding that my roommate would have to talk to those girls, even if I had to go in for him to initiate it] and simply the fact that I have social skills and a great social circle and lots of interesting things always going on in my life.
One very interesting point I noted from tonight, was with my roommate - the idea of creating your own reality and living in it. Immediately he started talking about how bad the interaction sucked between him and the girls, how they were so intellectually dumb, how he was in there with them and all he wanted was to get out, etc. None of it made sense, of course - first of all, if he didn't want to talk to them..just leave. There's nothing forcing him to stay in, and yet..he did. And apparently he'd been complaining to my friend about how he'd "lost his magic" earlier, but now it had nothing to do with him but rather the girls and how much they basically sucked. Even my friend wasn't buying all of it, and he's not even savvy to all this "insider info".
However, it did serve to reiterate to me the idea of, again, creating your own reality and living in it. Screw what anyone says or does, it's all about the frame you have/use to perceive and interpret events. So set the frames you want, frames that reflect positively on yourself and the events in question, and go from there. But make sure to remain objective about things that happen and not just taking on the attitude of "She's just a bitch" as an easy cop-out.
Remember..
..it's Hrithik's world..
~h
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Saturday, March 15, 2008
A Few [originally meant to be] Quick Notes
Earlier today [~a little before 1pm] I sent a text to HBBlondeBlackModel. Have her actively thinking about me, but also do it in a non-invested way [I am studying for mid-terms..plus, to her, I'm not just going to call her any/all the time - got to keep her on her toes, and I don't need her thinking she's "got me"].
h: "I was thinking about you, i'm not really sure why..so i figured i'd text you real quick during a study break. Hope you have a great day!"
Within 2 minutes..
HBBBM: "Have a good 1 too. :-)"
Having such a quick response = it's definitely very much on [credit: Sinn].
But of course, when you're looking for reasons to procrastinate, you don't just leave such a simple response as-is. So I proceeded to analyze the shit out of it - anything is more exciting than memorizing Immunology.
Here's what I came up with:
- She responded. Sometimes, people don't respond to texts where there's no response required, because it costs 16 cents [local currency] per page of message. Or they don't have any credit on their phone at the time [example: 1-to-2-day-late responses from HBGroceryStore on a regular basis, due to her lack of phone credit at times].
- Immediate response = she's very much into me [okay, so I didn't come up with that one, but I did think it immediately..and then realized why - because Sinn rocks]
- " :-) " .. she doesn't do smiley-faces. I know this, because she never uses them or responds to/with them - she just..doesn't..at all. It's just not her "way" of texting. And her texts are usually not very expressive..at all.
I like this text message and will probably use it in the future, too, because it tells her that:
- She is/was on my mind [meaning, I might like her, or something].
- The "i'm not really sure why" takes away any weirdness that may be associated with the fact that I'm thinking about her while at the same time goes into the emotional spectrum since emotions are not logical and thus there's no logical reason as to why I was thinking about you [I'm not weird, I just randomly thought about you - for some inexplicable reason]. Plus, it conveys that I have emotions, and I am in-tune enough with them to be aware of them, and man enough to admit all this to a woman.
- "So i figured i'd text you" conveys acting on those emotions = Attraction switch [especially with the "I'm a passionate guy, and I think everyone should be passionate" frame and "follow your heart" frame from the other day on the phone].
- "real quick during a study break" tells her that I am a busy guy, I do have shit to do, and [most likely] I lead an interesting life - it works almost like an indirect DHV. It also says that despite me being busy and leading an interesting life, I still thought about you, and I made time and put in effort to let you know, i.e. for you. And this leads to, in an indirect way, that therefore you are probably somewhat important to me, i.e. I like you.
- "Hope you have a great day!" sends across the super-positive vibe and full-of-life-and-energy image, which is an attractive quality. And it fits in pretty nicely with some of the frames from our talk the other day on the phone - great outlook, cool and fun personality, living in the moment, living life to the fullest, etc. And to a certain degree, especially in the context of the rest of the message, it says that I sincerely want you to have a great day, because I care about you. And bonus here is that if she does have a good/great day, she will associate that idea/feeling with me because I wanted that for her..which then loops back to reinforce that I genuinely must care about her, at least to some degree.
.. .. .. ..
Tonight, I ran to campus for "a minute" to get some really good shit for one of my mid-terms, and it was cool chillin with another group of my boyz who are in the term ahead of me, since I don't see them around - since I'm not on campus much and their schedule's are rouuuuugh..it'll be me in a few months :-/
Well, I was on the phone with my girlfriend right outside their dorm, and apparently HBMPHBrunette lives there. She came outside to get a smoke, and so I wandered off to order some food while I was wrapping up on the phone.
I got back, and she was still out there, and she was already looking at me as I came around the corner.
She apologized for "yapping away" about her life studying, etc, and disturbing me on the phone [I didn't say anything to give her this idea - maybe me walking off, but .. that's about it]. I took it as an excuse for her to talk to me [everything happens on purpose when dealing with social dynamics].
I told her it wasn't so much her talking as it was her smoking. She paused, trying to read me. Then she goes "oh, stop it..! haha", and I held onto my 'frame' or whatever [i.e. not backing down] and explained further that I was being straight up with her - it bothers my eyes, because they're sensitive.
She apologized haa the stronger frame absorbed the weaker one ;-)
So I rewarded her with coming in and complying by continuing our interaction, especially with a joke..something about if it happens again, and I'm studying, and my eyes are tired, and my contacts get irritated, I'll smack her - a "5 across the face" [Dave Chappelle!!] and then paused, turned back to her, and smiled before walking into the dorm.
She giggled and said something like "well maybe I like getting slapped" .. I made sure not to let this opportunity slip, and so I half-way turned back and said "Hmm..I'll have to keep that in mind, then!", winked with a "dirty" smile, and then walked back in. Easily introduced sexual themes in, whether she was purposely dropping that innuendo or not, I took it that way, and escalated on it, thus leaving her with that..I knew I had to get going, because my buddy would be waiting on me by now.
As I had already walked in, I could still hear her giggling [you know the kind: "my sexual fantasy's been discovered!" - she's now got some very solid images in her mind! haa], and she called out some "see you later!!" kind of good-bye, so I laughed and said "Alright!" .. and again, leave some doubt as to what I meant - "Alright..bye"? or "Alright, cool - I will see you, later on, to do..whatever it is your dirty mind is imagining right now!! ;-)"? Considering where her mind was already, and what I'd just said before that about keeping that smacking info in mind "for later", she'll now be thinking and hoping it was the second one.
{Notes: a lot of times, girls, especially attractive ones, actually have no game..whatsoever..like HBMPHBrunette. Slow on the come-backs, having weak conversation starters and topics, not knowing how to properly socialize with a guy of equal or higher value. They become AFCs.
This makes sense, too, because a lot of times, these more-attractive girls don't need to have game - they're used to being the choosers. Therefore, I need to be more aggressive and more direct, so as to let her know what's up, since she's having a very hard time trying to DHV herself to me so that I may IOI her for it. I've got to help her out with it and/or actively look for smaller DHVs for which to give IOIs.}
I went upstairs to grab those notes [and a book, as it turns out] and chilled with the guys for like an hour, discussing class shit but mostly non-academic shit.
I got out of there, picked up my food, and headed to the library..with a quick detour for water at the gym, and I'm glad - there was some chick up in there, holy shit!! She was doing dead-lifts, with skin-tight pants on, right by the water fountain..good thing I had my visor on! I don't like being a perv and staring at girls as they work out, but shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit, couldn't have helped it in this type of situation, so at least she doesn't need to know :-)
I couldn't get a look at the face so as to catch her around next time, but whatever..a body like that, I'll know when I see it again!
Anyways, I made my photocopies [made a quick appearance with HBPerfectTits, who was working there by chance] and went to catch a bus. On my way there, I ran into HBLazyEye, so I grabbed her from behind and scared her, while her friend and I laughed as I kept walking. And this very conveniently happened in front of HBTheBrownBody, who was walking the opposite way. And she was watching me/us the whole time, so it threw in a random little Pre-Selected moment for me to her.
I got on the bus and plop down. And HBBeautyMark comes in to sit directly across from me.
As soon as she'd walked in, I knew she'd already seen me and was still looking at me, so I eyed her up and down [good to let her know that I do find her sexy and attractive, especially because many times a girl can't tell with me because they won't let themselves assume it due to low self-esteem and/or my super-high value] and did a wolf-whistle haa Shit, she earned it, she looked fucking amazing!
She came at first to sit next to me, but I was taking up both seats [I was sitting in the middle and had the book, my copies, and the food], so she sat in the seat across the aisle. I went into a little too courteous [read: AFC] mode for a split-second, moving my stuff so she could sit next to me. But she didn't notice, and I made it like I was rearranging my stuff and getting more comfortable.
She tried a few different times to [re]initiate the conversation, each time it died off. Once I realized what she was doing [IOI after IOI], I made sure to not let it die off again: just keep it engaged, don't let any pause or lull in the conversation happen; in other words, lead the interaction - that's how it should be, regardless.
She herself mentioned the fact that I didn't want anyone to sit next to me, etc, a couple of times - I got the hint, but made her admit to the fact that she wanted to sit next to me before I did anything about it. "Ohhh..do youuu want to sit here..? :-)", and she smiled and gave me this look [didn't actually say yes], so I framed her reaction and took her smile-and-look to mean yes and replied "Ahh, I see..well, in that case, come on over!"
There was also a bit in there about us being married, and so I don't have to divorce her..yet..as long as she keeps making sure to do .. whatever it was I wanted her to do. I think it was "taking care of me" or something. Thus, I created the frame for her: I complimented her on what she was doing [i.e. making sure no one tries to sit in my extra seat] as what I wanted her to do for me [i.e. looking out for me, taking care of me -> thus, it's understood that she must care about me in order to want to take care of me, and since she's already taking care of me..you get the idea].
And then I took it even further, telling her that's the reason that we got married, because she's always looking out for me and caring for me. So she'd better keep on doing that, because the moment she stops .. we're through. She'll get the divorce papers in the mail. At first, I didn't know if it'd stuck, or if she was resisting the frame, so I kept going with it, about how she'd better not even think of trying to take half my stuff, because it's not going to happen like that.
She told me no, it wasn't going to happen [at this point, I'm thinking 'Oh great, she's resisting and being to "serious" about all this'], because she wouldn't sign the divorce papers.
As it turned out, she was just having trouble with what to say to work herself into the frame haa
So we went with that for a minute, and then someone got onto the bus, who apparently knew her, and so that girl started talking to my HB. So, I turned my body away from her. I know she was trying not to blow me off [she scooted in closer to me, pressed her hips and ass right up against me from the side, and kept looking over at me], but as far as I was concerned, whether she was trying to or not..she was still doing it. So she will be punished for it. Which was a good decision in retrospect, because someone called her a few seconds later, and my stop was coming up, anyway.
When my stop came up, it was kind of weird - she got off the bus with me [still on the phone], instead of just moving down the aisle towards the back to let me pass her. Despite her still being on the phone, I thought of using the opportunity to get her up to my place, even for a minute - at least get her used to the inside of it so as to knock off any "new place" feel for later on. But I remembered that she'd gotten onto the bus with a friend, and they were both going together to this post-exam cruise. So she's not going to randomly ditch her girlfriend, especially because it was only the 2 of them, to come chill with me, especially since they were on their way to that cruise party.
{Notes: similar to HBMPHBrunette, HBBeautyMark has no game. And she doesn't need any - she's gorgeous, and has a pretty tight body. There was a security guard getting off the bus before it left, and he knows her [her mom's a security guard at school], so he greeted her, reached out and grabbed her hand and held it somewhat intimately for a few seconds, then got off - this is a very common thing guys down here do. So, what girl needs game when it's so easy for her??
On the flip-side, it is a unique IOI that I need to be aware of, when girls linger the hand-holding or reach for my hand, because that's an IOI that I'm not really used to..hard to describe what it is, because it's not a typical holding-hands.
Also, because of the lack of her game like HBMPHBrunette, I must lead the interactions. As I should always do, anyway. But I need to lead it down a specific path, to let her know I'm interested or I like her, etc, and to escalate with her, both physically but especially verbally. I feel that she is not used to either 1) feeling this way [i.e. tables turned or simply being soo attracted to a guy], or 2) she feels awkward or worries about looking foolish in front of me, so she'd rather end the interaction quickly [or it dies away on its own and thus reinforces her awkward feeling] rather than allow her value [in my eyes, her eyes, and the eyes of others] to drop - again, she perceives it is dropping.
I know what she's feeling, because I definitely used to [sometimes still do??] go through that type of thing myself, i.e. get out while I'm still doing "okay" and before I mess things up - save face rather than risk failure/rejection, and I'd actually lose girls that were very much into me.}
I got a nice going-away Social Proof hit, for her and everyone else on the bus: the driver was one of my boyz, so he'd given me a laugh and a thumbs-up when I'd pushed the button for my stop [meaning, he was already dropping me off there without me having to push the stop button and that he knows it was me who pushed it - must be those eyes in the back of his head]. And as I crossed the street, he yelled out again to take it easy, laughed, and honked his horn at me [it's crazy, people are very honk-happy down here, like New York..except as a greeting lol].
Because I'm a baller.
~h
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